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« on: May 28, 2012, 03:35:11 »

I've been working with Wikkii (especially the Community Wiki) to help phase out Wikia, and me, as well as another user, came up with an idea that would automatically link all mentions of "Wikia" and "Wikicities" to an article about how bad they are. I've made a comparison of Wikkii and Wikia on http://community.wikkii.net/comwiki/index.php?title=Wikkii_vs._Wikia, which details why users should move their wikis to Wikkii.

Wikia has such a bad reputation that it has a criticism section on it's article in Wikipedia which takes up about a third of the article. They have done malicious things to not only me, but also you, so it's time for wikis to get onto "lifeboats", before Wikia finally "sinks", just like the Titanic. If you have any other ideas for this extension or you are good enough at technology to develop and maintain this extension, please post here. Thanks for listening.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 22:57:11 »

As much as I hate Wikia and want them to slowly die, such as extension serves no purpose. If there is a link or a mention of Wikia, people will probably find a way to get there.

I'm pretty sure Wikia is like 3 more social media extensions away from pissing off the majority of the older users. One day soon enough it will become a social media site completely and phase out the wiki aspect and few will notice the change.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 02:24:47 »

It's probably 2 more social extensions before the last reason to stay on Wikia goes for most users, if you ask me. In fact, it could possibly even be 1 more social extension, as The Vault, one of the biggest wikis on Wikia, left due to the message wall, which was the last social extension they added thus far. Even when the Monaco skin was around, Wikia was still filled with social extensions, such as blogs and avatars.

In fact, Wikia has gone so far towards being a group of blog sites instead that one person on Wikia, who joined on 4 April 2012, actually stated on Community Central that they were going to do a daily blog of themselves on that site. This is not a joke, and Wikia Staff even refuse to delete blogs which are nothing to do with wikis. Thanks for listening.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 02:45:12 »

I've been supporting The Vault at its new host.  I support some of the social extensions, as long as they don't disrupt basic MediaWiki.  The Message Wall was crap though.  Whenever I get a post on a user talk page on a wiki that doesn't use it, the new message notification never goes away.

I also doubt that any of their remaining diehards will leave no matter what Wikia does.  They're like the fanatical Nazis left still defending Berlin at the end of the war, who believed that Hitler was a god.  One of the admins at the plagiarized copy of The Vault even went off about how he did not move because of a list of reasons not to move that was written by Wikia.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 06:31:24 »

Basically, on all wikis that Wikia has caught red-handed, they just get a Wikia Staff member telling them that the old wiki will continue to be at Wikia, that they will get Google to hurt the new wiki's search results, and that they remove advertisements for the new wiki from the old wiki. Usually, Sannse warns them of this, but I got a warning from Brandon Rhea instead when Crash Bandicoot News Central moved from Wikia to Wikkii, and when The Super Gaming Wiki moved in March 2012, they got a warning from Merrystar.

DaNASCAT also used to fight wikis moving, but he doesn't do that anymore. Instead he just focuses on releasing terrible Technical Updates. But anyways, just out of interest, is the message wall now mandatory across all wikis on Wikia? If so, since when? I might also be able to add another reason to move to Wikkii on the comparison page if that is the case, since that is definitely something which should not be mandatory. Thanks for listening.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 11:58:57 »

I don't think it's mandatory, but they frak over anyone who users the monobook skin by not having support and denying access to features on it.

I originally had Sturmkrieg at Wikia, but I don't think they'll bother trying to get anyone into it since I'd make them change the name of it, as is what happened with The Vault, and all content added after the move is no longer free license.  It would basically just be a Warhammer fanon wiki, which they already have.  So I was one of the people who moved after the skin change.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 02:24:09 »

Unofficial Wikkii Extension
Version 0.1
Wikkii Does not support or authorised this extension, it is fan based, Wikkii can not be held responsible due to the actions of fans wielding this extension
Twibbles is not responsible for any damages done to your wiki, Also Remember to purge your cache (?action=purge) to see the changes!

Introduction
This Extension was made by the request of the fans and the authors (Twibbles) own ideas, Twibbles had planned to make this for some time however never got round to it. With some Community interest in the idea (Basically EpicWikipedia saying he wanted something like this) He finally got around to coding it. The Planned Feature of Masking will mask any url that points to W*kia, so it displays a sort of loading page before hand. The current Word replacement does not handle links! You may use it to link to somewhere, but it cannot comprehend a www.w*kia.com link (This is a good thing!). Note twb.wikkii.net is currently empty due to Twibbles clearing every spam thing he could find (Spammers like the site).

Features
* Replacement of the word Wikkii to a customizable preset
* Replacement of the work W*kia to a customizable preset
* Option to include a small link to the Wikkii vs W*kia page

Install Instructions
Place Wikkii.php inside of $IP/extensions/Wikkii/,
In other words Make a Folder called Wikkii in your extensions folder and add the .php to there.
You may need to add:
Code:
require_once('$IP/extensions/Wikkii/wikkii.php');
to your LocalSettings if you have not got an auto installer.

Configuration is stored in an array, It is best to copy the Config to your LocalSettings and edit it from there.
Code:
/* =========================== Variables ===========================
 * Array $wgWikkiiConfig - Contains all settings
 *  Var WiBold - Boolean -> Replace Wikkii with WiRepValue on/off
 *  Var WiRepValue - String -> String to replace Wikkii with
 *  Var WaRep - Boolean -> Replace W*kia with WaRepValue on/off
 *  Var WaRepValue - String -> String to replace W*kia with
 *  Var WiAd - Boolean -> Use Wikkii vs W*kia Ad
 *  Var WaMask - Boolean -> DO NOT USE OR CHANGE
 *  Var RedirectSkin - String -> Skin to use for Mask
 */

$wgWikkiiConfig = array(
  'WiRep' => false,
  /* - Use W*kia Replacement
   *   - Boolean: True / False | Default False
   */
  'WiRepValue' => '\'\'\' Wikkii \'\'\'',
  /* - What to replace W*kia with
   *   - String: "" | Default "\'\'\' Wikkii \'\'\'"
   * Note: Due to how this is found you require a leading and trailing white space
   */
  'WaRep' => true,
  /* - Use W*kia Replacement
   *   - Boolean: True / False | Default False
   */
  'WaRepValue' => "<span style=\"color:#696969\"> W*kia </span>",
  /* - What to replace W*kia with
   *   - String: "" | Default "<span style=\"color:#696969\"> W*kia </span>"
   * Note: Due to how this is found you require a leading and trailing white space
   */
  'WiAd' => false,
  /*  - Use Wikkii vs W*kia Top Bar (Link to Article placed at top of page)
   *   - Boolean: True / False | Default False
   * Note: If used please turn Cache off otherwise the single line will show untill
   * a user updates the cache, or the page is called into update
   * $wgParserCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
   * or
   * $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
   */
  'WaMask' => false, // DO NOT CHANGE OR USE
  /*  - Do not Use. Currently In Development
   *   - Boolean: True / False | Default False
   */
  'RedirectSkin' => "Vector"
  /* - What Skin to use for Mask (Not in Use)
   *   - String: "" | Default "Vector"
   */
);


Planned Features
* Masking system (System will go through "twb.wikkii.net" untill I make "private" versions of the mask script)
* Configuration for the 'Ad'
* Easy addition of Wikkii required Ad/Content
* Special Page for Configuration, (For Farmer Wiki integration)
* Bug Fixes
* Statistics and Statistic Pages
* Possibly Integration of BBCode, To make Wiki editing easier

Bugs
* Pre and NoWiki tags mess the extension up (Im on it, Be patient)
* 'Ad' for the Wikkii vs W*kia page will stay if a user logs in if caching is on,
(Once again on it)
* Unfinished code inside of Extension: Over the next week Im writing the masking part
* Word Finding is not Greedy enough, and misses some Alternations (Fix already planned)
* Bugs I forgot about that may still be lurking around
* Unknown Bugs. Please respond

Sort of legal point:
By using this you agree that the whole responsibility of the usage of this Extension
is yours, Twibbles (twb6543) only provides a method of highlighting words and
masking specific links. Any Action you use this for is yours. If Wikia decides
to sue you, Twibbles (twb6543) is not to be held responsible. YOU are in control
of the wiki it is your decision to use and customize this Extension.
Yes He has for the most part changed Wikia into W*kia but this is just due to his feelings towards the service, He does not actively promote Trying to take Wikia down, The reason why Wikkii wasnt changed is because this is the Wikkii site and it would be disrespectful.

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Support
Skype: Display - Twibbles Username - twb6543
Forums: wikkii.com/forums/
Wiki: twb.wikkii.net/ (When Ive remade the wiki again).
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 02:53:08 »

*Meant to add that Gunggo also does not Support or authorised the Extension, and cannot be held responsible of the actions of people using this. *Also should be For the actions not due to. Sorry caught the mistake just after I couldnt edit the message.

On another Note, Estimated time until full is 2 weeks max (possibly). With the Masking file it will be a "public" file as in it is publically accessed but not given out. The "Private" versions is per wiki rather than community. I dont know where it will be hosted in the end but I will probably temporarly host it on twb.wikkii.net Once its ready for use. Also Im open to suggestions, improvements. The code has been commented on heavily, hopefully still easy to read but the comments explain or have details on most things. Thats about it. Also Thanks go to The Community Wiki, Epic (for giving me the motivation to make this), Sasha Ehrenstein for all he has done for wikkii, Wikki them self, Gunggo, Mediawiki (and all their Team / community)  and People I missed from this list.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 13:55:07 »

Thanks.

I'm going to make a secondary wiki at support.wikkii.net for storing code for custom extensions that we create, that we don't want to be publicly available so Wikia can't use them.

We can also store code at the Community Wiki until we have the other wikis operational.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 16:33:37 »

I'm going to make a secondary wiki at support.wikkii.net for storing code for custom extensions that we create, that we don't want to be publicly available so Wikia can't use them.
Although I have seen third-party extensions being used by Wikia without permission (for example, the RandomInCategory extension, which was developed by somebody else), I doubt they would download this extension. If they do, they would probably modify it to make Wikkii look bad instead.

I also doubt they would download the Widgetbar extension (which is developed by me), as it is to do with Monobook, and Wikia wants to try and force users into viewing the new Wikia skin instead. Thanks for listening.
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